Former Abortionist: Stigma Against Abortion Providers is Stronger than Ever

Retired New Jersey abortion provider Robert Livingston was a champion for abortion rights in the ’60s and ’70s — once, in 1972, he even held a press conference outing himself as an illegal abortion doctor. But now, almost half a century later, Livingston avoids talking about reproductive rights because he believes the issue has become more “emotionally charged” than it was back in the day.

Livingston said he thought the stigma of being an abortion doctor is greater now than it was in the 1960s and that public opposition is stronger than he’s ever seen “

Katie J.M. Baker “Retired Doctor Says It’s Harder to Be an Abortion Provider Now Than Before Roe V. Wade” Jezebel September 3, 2012
http://jezebel.com/5940087/retired-doctor-says-its-harder-to-be-an-abortion-provider-now-than-before-roe-v-wade?post=52384729

Note: Dr.  Livingston has no medical license – it was suspended in 2007 after he neglected to attend a treatment program after abusing prescription painkillers. Unsurprisingly, the Jezebel  article did not mention this fact

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Ultrasound Laws and Abortion

An article about a law proposing that women view an ultrasound before having an abortion gave the following information:

 “A poll by Focus on the Family, a group opposed to abortion, found that when women who were undecided about whether to end a pregnancy were shown an ultrasound of the fetus, 78% did not have the abortion.

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A Gallup poll in July found that 50% of those surveyed supported laws requiring women to be shown ultrasound images of their fetuses, while 46% were opposed.”

Also from the article:

But critics of these [ultrasound] bills scored an important win in August, when a federal judge struck down parts of a new Texas law requiring women seeking an abortion in most cases to view a sonogram and listen to the fetal heart beat. Judge Sam Sparks ruled that the Texas law — which Gov. Rick Perry helped to push through the legislature — violated the First Amendment. “The act compels physicians to advance an ideological agenda with which they may not agree,” he said. The issue could end up in the Supreme Court.

Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2011/10/17/the-next-abortion-battleground-fetal-heartbeats/#ixzz24giCIFrC

Adam Cohen“The Next Abortion Battleground: Fetal Heartbeats” Time Ideas October 17, 2011

It is hard to imagine how showing a real time image of the child inside a woman, allowing her to make an informed choice and making sure she is not deceived by the clinic workers selling abortions violates women’s rights. Shouldn’t a woman have full access to all the information about what is going on in her own body? So many post-abortion women have claimed that abortion clinic workers lied about fetal development and/or turned the ultrasound away from them. They had an abortion thinking their children were merely tissue or a collection of cells. Then, sometime later they saw an actual photograph or sonogram of an unborn baby and break down, realizing once it is too late that they have been deceived. Are women really so fragile that they need to be protected from the truth?

3D sonogram at 8 weeks

 

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Pro-Choice Writer Comments on the Silent Scream

A pro-choice author comments on The Silent Scream, an antiabortion movie that shows an unborn baby being aborted on ultrasound. Planned Parenthood pulled all the stops out to discredit this movie, because it swayed many people towards the pro-life cause.

While these facts may, as Planned Parenthood says, speak loudly, it’s unlikely that they say what the prochoice groups hope, since they put the fetus, even a televised facsimile, on center stage, precisely where prochoice groups don’t want it. Assume the film is wrong and the Planned Parenthood brochure is right. Assume that was a fetal yawn and not a scream. None of the experts contested that it was a fetal mouth, and that it was pan of a fetal head, attached to a fetal spine, and that it had arms andlegs, fingers and eyes.  ….

In fact, we need neither The Silent Scream nor a degree in fetal physiology to tell us what we already know: that abortion is the eradication of human life and should be avoided whenever possible. Should it be legal? Yes, since the alternatives are worse. Is it moral? Perhaps, depending on what’s at stake.

Jason Deparle, “Beyond the Legal Right; Why Liberals and Feminists Don’t like to Talk about the Morality of Abortion,” Washington Monthly Apr. 1989

3-D ultrasound in the first trimester
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Allegations Against Dr. George Tiller, Former Employee Sued Him

The late Dr. George Tiller performed abortions up through the third trimester. His death was tragic, and he has been hailed a hero by many pro-choicers. However, he was implicated in the death of at least one woman.

In 1993, an employee of his, Tracy Jones, sued him. She is quoted here:

“There were no ‘training manuals’ for new employees, and there was no time (or instructions from Dr. Tiller) to develop them. Basically it was a ‘sink or swim’ situation for new front office employees. We did have a cursory telephone answering procedure sheet to follow, but generally a new employee received on-the-job training by all of the front office employees. Further, front office employees wre routinely called back to the medical area to assist medical employees with direct patient care without receiving any training in this area.” Included “washing surgical instruments and wrapping them for autoclave, operating the sonogram during surgery, explaining aftercare instructions to patients, and preparing specimins”

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“Dr. Tiller paid ‘kick-backs’ to certain individuals who referred patients to him: [I.S.] in New York; [C.F.] in Tulsa, Oklahoma and [C.K.] in Atlanta, Georgia… Dr. Tiller required me to account for these payments (other than [I.S.], who he paid in cash) as ‘Other Advertising’ on the books.”

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“Dr. Tiller instructed me to routinely overbill Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Kansas. For example, we billed BC/BS $786 for a first trimester procedure, while patients actually paid only $225 or $330. Dr. Tiller advised me that he ‘pioneered’ this billing procedure, and that other clinics across the country were doing it as well. The way it worked was that $786 was booked as the actual procedure fee, the patient paid either $225 or $330, and the remainder ($561 or $456) was written off in the ‘adjustments’ column. When patients questioned this, we advised that $786 was the actual cost of our service, but that in order to remain competitive we took a loss, or a write-off, to keep our prices low.”

Sorce:

Source: US District Court of Kansas Case No. 94-1138-MLB

provided by Christina Dunigan

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Abortion Nurses Bothered by Ultrasounds

ultrasound at 10 weeks

“When we started, we lost two nurses. They couldn’t take looking at it. Some other staff was lost.”

Former abortionist Dr. Joseph Randall, on what happened when the clinic where he worked started doing ultrasounds during abortions.

Read Dr. Randall’s full testimony here. 

 

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Pro-Choice Activist on Abortion and Rape

One pro-choice author said the following:

“To defend abortion with confidence, we must first recognize that institutional opposition to the right is part of a broader campaign to undermine women’s autonomy and equality… Abortion is only one piece of the puzzle.  When this puzzle is assembled, the image that emerges is of a women subjected, not a fetus saved.  For example, it is illuminating that “right to life” leaders generally tolerate abortion in cases of rape or incest.  The fetus conceived by rape is biologically and morally indistinguishable from the fetus conceived by voluntary intercourse.  But in the view of our opponents, the rape victim is innocent while the woman who chooses to have sex is tainted.  For them, it is the woman’s innocence or guilt that determines whether she should be allowed to have an abortion or forced to bear a child.”

“Caitlin Borgmann and Catherine Weiss “Beyond Apocalypse and Apology: A Moral Defense of Abortion” Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health volume 35, January/February 2003

Webmaster’s Comment: I thought this was interesting because it shows a pro-choice interpretation of why so many pro-lifers support abortion when it’s a case of rape or incest.  They pick up on the inconsistency of that stand.  What she says is true that the baby is still a baby whether or not it was conceived through voluntary sex or through rape.

It is also true that many women who get pregnant from rape don’t want to have abortions, and many who have regret it. To read some of their stories, go here. 

12 week old unborn baby. can you tell how he was conceived?
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Vast Majority of Abortions are Not for Medical Reasons

from 1980 to 2000 – 99.31% of abortions annually were for non-therapeutic reasons

5460 were for health of mother — that is .36%

3640 were for fetal defects — that is .24%

1,506,770 are for social cases- that is 99.31%

Brian W. Clowes “The Facts of Life: an Authoritative Guide to Life and Family Issues”

Marybeth T. Hagan  “Abortion: a Mother’s Plea for Maternity and the Unborn” (Liguori, Missouri: Triumph) 2005

9 weeks- typical age for an aborted baby
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NARAL Calls Use of Ultrasounds “Intimidation”

Abortion clinics sell abortions. To expect an abortion clinic to be objective in describing abortion is like expecting a car dealership to be objective about buying a car. Clinics make money off of abortions. They don’t make money off of women having their babies.

For some quotes from abortion clinic counselors revealing their bias, go here. 

For obvious reasons, abortion proponents oppose laws allowing women to see their ultrasounds before abortions. Even laws that do not require a woman to see her baby on the screen, but merely require her to be offered a chance are vigorously opposed by abortion rights organizations. They also fight crisis pregnancy centers, which often show women a sonogram of her baby in an attempt to allow her to make an informed choice.

Bill S.  340 Informed Choice Act Would have given grants to crisis pregnancy centers to buy ultrasound equipment

Kate Michelman president of NARAL pro-choice America said CPC would use ultrasound images to “intimidate” women  also said “it never fails to amaze me how little respect they have for women’s capacity to understand what goes on in our bodies.”

David Crary “Abortion Foes Hope to Sway Pregnant Women with Ultrasound Images” Associated Press State and Local Wire February 1, 2001

1st trimester ultrasound

For examples of women whose hearts and minds were changed by seeing ultrasounds, go here.

 

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Author Advocates for Legal Abortion

Pro-choice author Janet Hadley on the reasons abortion must remain legal. She admits in her book that abortion is the taking of a life.

“Without cheap, safe, people friendly contraception as well as the legal and safe means to end unwanted pregnancy, “anatomy is destiny” and women’s lives are still gruesome game of health roulette.” (emphasis author’s)

Abortion remains at 8 weeks

Janet Hadley “Abortion: between Freedom and Necessity” (Great Britain: Virago Press 1996) 131

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British Military Women Forced to Get Abortions

A pro-choice feminist gives the following information in her book about abortion:

Until 1990, the British military had a policy of kicking women who became pregnant out of the service if they did not abort.  If a woman was found to be over 16 weeks pregnant she was discharged, even if she was in a clerical or office job or other noncombat position

From a telephone operator at Women’s Royal Navy Service:

“They gave me a weekend to think about it.  It was like I was going to the dentist to have a tooth out.  There was no compassion and no counseling… My boyfriend didn’t want to know, I had no choice.”

“Abortions Test Case for Army” Guardian March 28, 1994

According to a lawyer who represented women:

“There was a culture of abortion.  If you went to the medical officer, you got told how quickly an abortion could be arranged and that the military hospital was lined up ready to do the operation.”

Janet Hadley “Abortion: between Freedom and Necessity” (Great Britain: Virago Press 1996) 102, 104

There have been many cases of women coerced into having abortions by employers. This is one example.

For more information on coerced abortions, go here.

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