Abortionist: it doesn’t “cross his mind” whether babies feel pain

In one of the partial-birth abortion ban trials (New York) one abortionist was asked whether he ever considered whether or not aborted babies felt pain. Here’s the exchange:

THE COURT: Does it ever cross your mind when you are doing a dismemberment?

THE WITNESS: I guess whenever I –

THE COURT: Simple question, Doctor. Does it cross your mind?

THE WITNESS: Does the fetus having pain cross your mind?



THE COURT: Never crossed your mind.


Testimony of abortionist Dr Timothy Johnson, National Abortion Federation, et. al. v. Ashcroft, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, March 31, 2004

The type of abortion Johnson was being asked about was a D&E abortion, which is performed by dismembering a 2nd or 3rd trimester child with forceps in utero. You can read one former abortionist’s description of the D&E abortion here.

Below: killed by a dismemberment D&E abortion at 21 weeks


Dr. Johnson never wonders if babies killed like this one feel pain.

Dr. Johnson never wonders if babies killed like this one feel pain.


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