Counselor: most women come to think of their abortions as killing a baby

A social worker from Portland, Oregon, who works at a counseling and referral center:

“Most women when they have an abortion don’t really know what they are doing – they are either so young, so ignorant, or so frightened… Down the line, 5, 6, or 7 years when they have children, some kind of trauma almost always comes up… And down the line, most women do think of the aborted fetus as a living being, as a baby.”

Maggie Gallagher Enemies of Eros (Chicago, IL: Bonus Books Inc. 1989) in David L Bender and Bruno Leone Abortion: Opposing Viewpoints (San Diego, CA: Greenhaven Press, 1991) 59

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Pro-choicer: Adoption is barbaric, abortion is moral

“[I] feel abhorrence for the idea of deliberately bringing an unwanted pregnancy to term, delivering forth a helpless human being, and then just giving it away to others to care for. To never again take any responsibility whatsoever for a baby deliberately brought into this world seems to me utterly barbaric!

By contrast, abortion is absolutely moral and responsible. To stop the pregnancy and prevent the birth of a child who cannot be properly cared for shows wisdom – an understanding of the realities of life.”

Constance Robertson, “The Religious Case for Abortion” in David L Bender and Bruno Leone Abortion: Opposing Viewpoints (San Diego, CA: Greenhaven Press, 1991)

Is adoption barbaric? or is abortion (shown below, on a ten week old human) barbaric?

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is this “moral” and “responsible?”

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Mother demands daughter have an abortion, yells at clinic workers

From the owner of an abortion clinic:

“Often parents would beg us to convince their underage children to terminate pregnancies. There was nothing we could do if the youngster chose to continue their pregnancy. Some youngsters felt they could have the baby, give it to their parents to raise and continue to live a life of no responsibility.

I recall one mother shouting that we were legally obligated to perform the abortion on her daughter because she paid us, and signed a medical permission form. We told her it didn’t work that way. We gave her a refund, minus a very small fee for the doctor’s examination and lab work, because her daughter refused to terminate the pregnancy.”

Norma Goldberger Abortion Confidential: Secrets of an Abortion Clinic Owner (CreateSpace , November 23, 2014) Kindle Edition

I wonder how much the “very small fee” that wasn’t refunded actually was.

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Clinic director only hired people who never say the word “baby”

From the director of Open Door, a counseling and referral center for women seeking abortions, on hiring staff:

“I confirmed that each counselor was pro-choice… I did not allow anybody to work with our clients who referred to a fetus as anything but in that neutral term [ the word ‘fetus’]. I recall arguing with an applicant who couldn’t understand that the term “baby” was not neutral and a value judgment in and of itself.”

Norma Goldberger Abortion Confidential: Secrets of an Abortion Clinic Owner (CreateSpace , November 23, 2014) Kindle Edition

Norma Goldberger, the director, eventually left Open Door to establish an abortion clinic, which she owned.

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Woman has abortion “because it was important for my life”

Post-abortion woman:

 “I’ve always been pro-choice… If you did the one thing and said, yes, I’m going to go through with this abortion, are you going to feel guilt for the rest of your life? Because I have a lot of nagging thoughts that go on in my head, and this isn’t one of them. I have what I hope is a strong faith in God and I was happy to learn that He, at least in my mind – I really didn’t think that God was going to punish me. And I didn’t have any of those problems that a lot of people say is part of the problem, that this is killing and all that sort of thing. I really felt that God or whatever was as sorry as I was, but that was part of the forgiveness process was forgiveness for yourself. To say, I’m sorry I have to do this to myself, and I don’t have to ask anybody else for forgiveness… I felt that it was okay, I didn’t have any question about being an okay person for making that choice because it was important for my life.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 101 – 102

There is no mention of the baby at all. The baby that was left looking like the one below:

Aborted baby in the first trimester- 11 weeks
Aborted baby in the first trimester- 11 weeks

 

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Woman glad she aborted: “I don’t have “crumb-snatchers” tearing up my house”

From a woman who had several abortions:

“I’m moving out to a one-bedroom condominium. I don’t have crumb–snatchers tearing up my house. I live where there’s adult living. I don’t have to live in the 69th Village, because I can’t afford anything else… My cousin, she just had [a baby]. She’s just a month younger than me. … But I mean, who gets up with this child? She does… I don’t know if I’m just materialistic or what… [but] she has to wait for the first and the 15th [to get a welfare check]. She stocks up on diapers. I don’t want to be like that. I don’t want to be like that.

It’s just a different type of lifestyle that I want to lead right now… I’m not ready for it now. Because I mean, there’s so many things that, so many opportunities and other choices you know, that are offered to me right now. I just don’t want to miss out on it. I just don’t want to miss anything.…

When you’re growing up you go through a lot of changes. It’s a part of growth. … You might have men problems, you just change. You might be young and you might be infatuated and you end up getting married, you have a child by him and you have another child … and you’re sick of him so you want to leave and then you go off with your boyfriend. I don’t want to bring my child through all that mess. Then, I know I wouldn’t be with the man forever, because I would grow out of him, and then, then I’ll have to drag my child through that…. These are the years when we go through our little flings, so don’t make any real commitments now.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 172 – 175

She was not using birth control consistently the three or four times she got pregnant and aborted.

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Midwife talks about her pro-life views and rape

Midwife and pro-lifer Jeannine Parvati Baker says:

 “Before I first published my book Prenatal Yoga in 1974, I was sure in myself that abortion was “missing the mark” in my own journey as a fertile, spiritual being. I knew that I wouldn’t consider it as an option for myself. So I took the precautions I then thought necessary and used contraceptives–not realizing that I ran an even greater risk of pregnancy with those technological tools than if I had then known fertility awareness. And some forms of contraceptives are actually hidden abortifacients. I was just beginning my heterosexual experience and trusted technology to deliver me from unwanted pregnancy.

Then I had an experience which radically changed my ignorant trust.

I was raped. I had to confront the possibility of carrying and birthing a baby whose beginning was less than auspicious. Throughout the crisis, my belief in the sanctity of life strengthened and I understood that any baby coming from rape was not to be blamed or killed because of my ideals. I wasn’t even married, nor did I have a means of support for a child, yet I trusted that life itself was more precious than these most real, material concerns.

For over a month I waited, unsure of my fate. When I eventually began menstruating, it was with profound relief. Looking back I now realize that this experience, as horrible as it was, was given to me to build my conviction and maintain full credibility as a guardian of life. My path has led me to be a midwife and healer and with integrity I took the vow to “Do No Harm” fully to heart.”

Jeannine Parvati Baker “THE SWORD WAS NOT WITH THE GODDESS: A SPIRITUAL MIDWIFE ADDRESSES THE NEED TO HEAL ABORTION” Feminism & Nonviolence Studies Fall 1998 – Special Issue on Spiritual Diversity

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Pro-choice woman explains why she had abortion

Jo,  on her abortion:

“If I have any guilt at all, it’s that I should have guilt [laughs]. There’s no bad in this. It’s fucking, and it’s fun. You get pregnant, you get pregnant, come on. God makes it so much fun to get pregnant because it is such a hard row to hoe, once you get a kid. I was married; I could’ve done it. I’m a good mother, I make great babies, and I planned another baby after Marie…”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 42

Eight-week-old preborn baby
Eight-week-old preborn baby
Remains of baby after an abortion at eight weeks
Remains of baby after an abortion at eight weeks
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Woman asks her 11-year-old son whether to abort his sister or brother

Joyce let her 11 year old son decide for her whether or not to get an abortion.

“I’ve always been very honest with my son. I set him down one night, and I told him – this was just before his 12th birthday – and I said, “Michael, I’m pregnant, and I really don’t know what to do. Peter wants me to keep the child, and I really don’t think I want to, Michael.” And he said to me, “Mother, I wanted a brother or sister, but by the time the child is old enough to play with me, I will be too old to be able to give the child anything.” And then he said, “And how are you going to support it?” He’s never liked Peter, and even brought that up then, “Do you think Peter’s going to be around?” And I said, “No, he’s not going to be, Michael.” He said, “the best thing you can do, Mother, is have an abortion.”…

It was a tough decision, but one I’ve never regretted.”

But she later said:

“I felt terrible for weeks. A lot of depression. Something has just been torn from your body. You’re going through a lot of hormonal changes. And there’s a lot of depression. There’s a lot of guilt. Especially when you’ve got a man [Peter] who’s telling you: you murdered your child. You’re wondering if you’ve done the right thing.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 55, 56

What kind of mother bases her decision on whether to abort on the answer of an 11-year-old child? How will this boy feel when he grows up and learns the truth about abortion, and that he had a role in killing his brother or sister?

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Pro-Choice author: a baby is bad for your social life- abort

Pro-Choice author Sumi Hoshiko  says:

“Besides the difficulty of raising a child by oneself, being a single mother has definite implications for the relationships a woman can find. It sharply curtails her flexibility and freedom, closing off opportunities for the activities and full social life which would enable her to find a mate. If she is housebound with young ones in playpens or highchairs, even seeing friends, taking a class, or going to a party pose logistical challenges. If she does decide to try, the cost of a babysitter may make an evening out so expensive it becomes a luxury reserved for rare occasions… She may find being confined to the house makes her more awkward and shy on the occasions she finds herself in an adult social situation. This uncertainty of whether she is a desirable partner may then become a barrier to meeting someone new.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 19

She gives this as reasons for a woman to get an abortion.

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