It’s murder, but a woman’s right

The following is from an interview with Molly Yard, then president of the National Organization for Women:

Q: When a public opinion poll asks, “Is it a woman’s right to choose abortion?” Approximately 67% of Americans say yes. Yet, if the same group is asked, “Is abortion murder?” The same percentage says yes. Why is that?

A: I think it depends entirely on how you ask the question. When you put it in terms of individual rights, people come down on the side of the individual and against the government.

That’s what they’re really saying, that it’s a woman’s right and it’s not the business of the government interfere. They may think it’s murder, but they also don’t think the government should interfere in somebody’s life.

“Voices of the Abortion Debate” New Dimensions, 1990

The hand of a baby aborted at 10 weeks
The hand of a baby aborted at 10 weeks

Is murder a woman’s right?

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Pro-choicer: Adoption is barbaric, abortion is moral

“[I] feel abhorrence for the idea of deliberately bringing an unwanted pregnancy to term, delivering forth a helpless human being, and then just giving it away to others to care for. To never again take any responsibility whatsoever for a baby deliberately brought into this world seems to me utterly barbaric!

By contrast, abortion is absolutely moral and responsible. To stop the pregnancy and prevent the birth of a child who cannot be properly cared for shows wisdom – an understanding of the realities of life.”

Constance Robertson, “The Religious Case for Abortion” in David L Bender and Bruno Leone Abortion: Opposing Viewpoints (San Diego, CA: Greenhaven Press, 1991)

Is adoption barbaric? or is abortion (shown below, on a ten week old human) barbaric?

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is this “moral” and “responsible?”

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Woman has abortion “because it was important for my life”

Post-abortion woman:

 “I’ve always been pro-choice… If you did the one thing and said, yes, I’m going to go through with this abortion, are you going to feel guilt for the rest of your life? Because I have a lot of nagging thoughts that go on in my head, and this isn’t one of them. I have what I hope is a strong faith in God and I was happy to learn that He, at least in my mind – I really didn’t think that God was going to punish me. And I didn’t have any of those problems that a lot of people say is part of the problem, that this is killing and all that sort of thing. I really felt that God or whatever was as sorry as I was, but that was part of the forgiveness process was forgiveness for yourself. To say, I’m sorry I have to do this to myself, and I don’t have to ask anybody else for forgiveness… I felt that it was okay, I didn’t have any question about being an okay person for making that choice because it was important for my life.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 101 – 102

There is no mention of the baby at all. The baby that was left looking like the one below:

Aborted baby in the first trimester- 11 weeks
Aborted baby in the first trimester- 11 weeks

 

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Woman glad she aborted: “I don’t have “crumb-snatchers” tearing up my house”

From a woman who had several abortions:

“I’m moving out to a one-bedroom condominium. I don’t have crumb–snatchers tearing up my house. I live where there’s adult living. I don’t have to live in the 69th Village, because I can’t afford anything else… My cousin, she just had [a baby]. She’s just a month younger than me. … But I mean, who gets up with this child? She does… I don’t know if I’m just materialistic or what… [but] she has to wait for the first and the 15th [to get a welfare check]. She stocks up on diapers. I don’t want to be like that. I don’t want to be like that.

It’s just a different type of lifestyle that I want to lead right now… I’m not ready for it now. Because I mean, there’s so many things that, so many opportunities and other choices you know, that are offered to me right now. I just don’t want to miss out on it. I just don’t want to miss anything.…

When you’re growing up you go through a lot of changes. It’s a part of growth. … You might have men problems, you just change. You might be young and you might be infatuated and you end up getting married, you have a child by him and you have another child … and you’re sick of him so you want to leave and then you go off with your boyfriend. I don’t want to bring my child through all that mess. Then, I know I wouldn’t be with the man forever, because I would grow out of him, and then, then I’ll have to drag my child through that…. These are the years when we go through our little flings, so don’t make any real commitments now.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 172 – 175

She was not using birth control consistently the three or four times she got pregnant and aborted.

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Pro-choice woman explains why she had abortion

Jo,  on her abortion:

“If I have any guilt at all, it’s that I should have guilt [laughs]. There’s no bad in this. It’s fucking, and it’s fun. You get pregnant, you get pregnant, come on. God makes it so much fun to get pregnant because it is such a hard row to hoe, once you get a kid. I was married; I could’ve done it. I’m a good mother, I make great babies, and I planned another baby after Marie…”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 42

Eight-week-old preborn baby
Eight-week-old preborn baby
Remains of baby after an abortion at eight weeks
Remains of baby after an abortion at eight weeks
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Pro-Choice author: a baby is bad for your social life- abort

Pro-Choice author Sumi Hoshiko  says:

“Besides the difficulty of raising a child by oneself, being a single mother has definite implications for the relationships a woman can find. It sharply curtails her flexibility and freedom, closing off opportunities for the activities and full social life which would enable her to find a mate. If she is housebound with young ones in playpens or highchairs, even seeing friends, taking a class, or going to a party pose logistical challenges. If she does decide to try, the cost of a babysitter may make an evening out so expensive it becomes a luxury reserved for rare occasions… She may find being confined to the house makes her more awkward and shy on the occasions she finds herself in an adult social situation. This uncertainty of whether she is a desirable partner may then become a barrier to meeting someone new.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 19

She gives this as reasons for a woman to get an abortion.

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Woman prayed before her abortion

From a woman who aborted her four-month-old child:

“I really believe in God… I feel like I was compromising my religion a little bit, because I know that sacrificing a life or a baby, and I believe that I was carrying one, is sort of a Satanic way of demeaning God, not being true and not really believing in God. Those things all entered my mind, and I just had to shut them out of my mind and just pray hard, hard, and just talk to God, and say that I want you to take my baby, keep it until I can take care of it. Just really pray hard. That I was doing the right thing and try not to let darkness or evil enter into it. But I just pray continually. I think it’s okay, though, because everything is okay with me now, and I feel happy and I’m strong and I feel great. And I’m getting on with my life and I’m doing exactly what I want to do.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 145

Four months
Four months

Below: method of abortion used in the fourth month

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Abortion is an act of courage, says pro-choice writer

“Even if the experience is difficult, making the decision and going through an abortion can bring a time of change and growth.… It may create a new sense of self, a new identity as a woman, as a woman capable of handling the crisis and able to take charge of her life …

Choosing to have an abortion is, in a most fundamental sense, a way of having control over one’s life. Grasping even this bit of power over one’s destiny can strengthen the woman…

Abortion can be an act of personal courage… It is choosing to seek our greatest happiness; it means having the freedom to explore who we really are, who we truly want to be, to have the chance to push the limits of our potential. Pursuing happiness is not a selfish action; it is an act of love.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 21 – 22

8 week abortion
From an 8 week abortion
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Woman who aborted: it was a “non-event”

For many women the regrets and wistful what-ifs they indulge in after an abortion rank slightly below, say, “What if I had chucked economics and majored in art?” Ask around, and you’ll find that more than a few women have abortions and get on with their lives – sometimes both in the same day,…

take the local lawyer who, at 27 with a great job and a devoted boyfriend and potentially doting grandparents nearby, chose to abort when she became pregnant after accepting a better job. Any regrets?

“Actually, I barely remember it. When people ask me if I’ve had one, my first instinct is to say no – not because I’m blocking it, but because, as opposed to all the emotional accounts I’ve read about abortion, mine was a non-event.”

Carolyn Hax, “No Birth, no Pangs; for Many Young Women, Abortion is a Given.” The Washington Post Mar 21 1993

Remains of 10 week old aborted baby
Remains of 10 week old aborted baby
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Abortion: A baby isn’t a baby until you love it

From one woman who had an abortion:

“For me there wasn’t a moral question… I don’t have a problem with this fetus thing, either – if it dies or lives and all this sort of thing. I mean, I don’t ever remember wondering if the fetus thing lives, but I believe that the self is the most important thing…. And I think my friend Jenny said that a baby isn’t a baby until you love it, and I think that that’s a part of it. It wasn’t a person yet. It was a possibility that was on its way, but one that I couldn’t have then.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 95

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Above: If I love this being above, does that make him a baby? If I stop loving him, does he go back to not being a baby again?

See here what a baby this age looks like after an abortion.

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