Mother of two children with down syndrome: “it’s a beautiful journey”

Ashley Engele, a mom of two whose oldest child has Down syndrome, found out that she was pregnant with her third baby, who also had downs. She chose life. Her first child,  Rilynn, is now 4 1/2 years old:

“Rilynn is just like any other precocious 4-year-old girl. She goes to preschool, loves Trolls, Barbie dolls and her “typical” younger sister. They are best friends, they love each other fiercely, and also have the classic sibling rivalry. We fight over what outfit she’s going to wear, or how she’s going to wear her hair for the day. Most of all, she loves other kids and babies. ….

We know how when we’re having a bad day, one smile from Rilynn can completely turn it around.

We know the extra-squishy hugs that turn our hearts into mush.

We know that when her cute little hands reach out and touch your cheek, you instantly feel better.

We know how she is changing the perception of those with Down syndrome, one person at a time.

If you’ve ever met our daughter, you know she doesn’t lack personality. She can make even the grumpiest or angriest people smile and win their hearts over in an instant.

You see, Down syndrome has shown us a whole new world, a whole new deeper level of love, compassion, and patience.”

After her third child was diagnosed in utero:

“Down syndrome is a beautiful journey we had never planned on, but would never dream of leaving because we know what it’s like. We treasure our experiences at face value, we slow down and enjoy the little moments in life, we celebrate every single milestone (big or small), and most of all, we celebrate life, because our lives are better with Down syndrome in it.”

ASHLEY ENGELE “Woman expecting 2nd baby with Down syndrome opens up about her experience” ABC News Oct 30, 2017

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Abortionist: some abortionists are Christians and pray with the women

From a video interview with an abortionist:

“One of the things I’ve discovered, particularly in working in the southeast, is there are providers who identify themselves as Christian and actually bring their Christianity into the space of abortion. Some providers actually pray with individuals….”

The abortionist says she likes to tell her patients:

“This is a safe place. I’m here to support you.”

ATTN Video, shared on Facebook March 10, 2018

Aborto a las 10 semanas
Hand from a baby aborted at 10 weeks after conception
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Arkansas Gazette: pro-lifers don’t want to eradicate cancer

A pro-choice reporter in the Arkansas Gazette came up with this gem:

“The militant antiabortionists would rather wipe out abortion than cancer.”

Arkansas Gazette, November 26, 1990

Quoted in Oliver Trager Abortion: Choice & Conflict (New York: Facts on File, 1993) 178

Because, obviously, wanting to save a baby like the one below means we love cancer.

Seven week-old preborn baby
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Pro-choice law clerk: Roe V Wade “borders on the indefensible”

Edward Lazarus, former law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun, who authored the Roe V Wade decision:

“As a matter of constitutional interpretation and judicial method, Roe borders on the indefensible. I say this as someone utterly committed to the right to choose, as someone who believes such a right has grounding elsewhere in the Constitution instead of where Roe placed it, and as someone who loved Roe’s author like a grandfather….

What, exactly, is the problem with Roe? The problem, I believe, is that it has little connection to the Constitutional right it purportedly interpreted. A constitutional right to privacy broad enough to include abortion has no meaningful foundation in constitutional text, history, or precedent ­- at least, it does not if those sources are fairly described and reasonably faithfully followed.”

The Lingering Problems with Roe v. Wade, and Why the Recent Senate Hearings on Michael McConnell’s Nomination Only Underlined Them” FindLaw Legal Commentary, Oct. 3, 2002

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Sarah Weddington calls pictures of abortion victims “grotesque and misleading”

In her pro-choice book, Sarah Weddington, who argued Roe V Wade before the Supreme Court, complained about pro-lifers using photographs of aborted babies. She claims that pro-choicers had photographs of women who died after illegal abortions but chose not to use them. Weddington says:

“We expected the antiabortionists to use grotesque and misleading photographs; they usually did. Some on our side felt we should show graphically the problems that resulted when abortion was illegal. Others argued that we would be sinking to the level of the opposition – a level we disdained – if we did the same. We decided to use reason instead of the pictures.”

Sarah Weddington A Question of Choice (New York: The Feminist Press, 2013 ed.) 86

Setting aside the question of how a photograph depicting reality can be misleading, if the pictures are so “grotesque”, it only means that abortion itself is grotesque. The pictures are an accurate representation of what happens in an abortion. If she thinks the pictures are grotesque, she thinks that abortion is grotesque. But she still supports it.

See some of the pictures of aborted babies

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Sarah Weddington did not expect pro-life opposition

In her memoir, Sarah Weddington writes that she did not expect the pro-life movement to emerge and fight abortion, and that the abortion issue was settled after Roe v. Wade:

“Initially I joined others in thinking that the basic question had been settled: abortion was and would continue to be legal. In a few years, I thought, the decision would be accepted, abortion would become a part of routine medical practice, and the opposition would go away. Until that time, we just needed to protect what we had won.”

Sarah Weddington A Question of Choice (New York: The Feminist Press, 2013 ed.) 195

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Feminist: There is “tremendous loneliness” in “right to choose”

Frederica Mathewes-Green wrote:

“There is tremendous sadness, loneliness, in the cry, “A woman’s right to choose.” No one wants an abortion as she wants an ice-cream cone or a Porsche. She wants an abortion as an animal, caught in a trap, wants to gnaw off its own leg. Abortion is a tragic attempt to escape a desperate situation by an act of violence and self-loss.”

Writer Frederica Mathewes-Green, “Unplanned Parenthood,” Policy Review, Summer 1991, 28-36.

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Woman watches her abortion on ultrasound

Kori, 26, who was having her third abortion, asked to watch the procedure on the ultrasound monitor:

“It was O.K. to watch. Once you had your mind made up to do it, you just suck it up and go with it.”

JOHN LELAND “Under Din of Abortion Debate, an Experience Shared Quietly” New York Times SEPT. 18, 2005

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Planned Parenthood fights ultrasound- except when it’s for sex-selection abortion

Planned Parenthood opposes laws that would allow a woman the chance to see her baby on the ultrasound screen before an abortion. According to Planned Parenthood’s website:

“While the ultrasound bill was amended in Virginia, it is still an appalling and offensive government overreach that is designed to shame women who are seeking legal health care. Governor McDonnell clearly has a political agenda to restrict women’s access to health care, and the ultrasound law is just the latest example of his extreme agenda,” said Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

“The bottom line is that Governor McDonnell is looking to further his own political ambitions at the risk of hurting women’s health in Virginia. The country has stood up and is taking notice.”

“Planned Parenthood Federation of America Strongly Condemns Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell Signing Mandatory Ultrasound Bill” Planned Parenthood Website

And yet, when commenting on the morality of using ultrasound pictures to determine whether an unborn baby is a girl in order to abort based on her gender, Planned Parenthood’s director of community relations in Lancaster County, PA said:

“The information about a woman’s pregnancy has to be made available to her. We can’t legislate what a man or a woman will do with medical information. Physicians with problems with the way a patient will use information they give them should let the patient know so they can go elsewhere.”

Christopher Farley “The Debate Over Uses of Prenatal Testing” USA Today Feb 2, 1989 1D

Planned Parenthood opposes women’s access to ultrasound technology if it means that they may be dissuaded from abortion, but supports the use of ultrasound technology if its purpose is to determine whether a baby should be aborted. This blatant pro-abortion bias truly shows where Planned Parenthood’s priorities lie.

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Woman pressured into aborting baby with down syndrome has regrets

Marie Ideson was 16 weeks pregnant when she found out her baby had Down syndrome. Ideson originally wanted to keep her baby. She recounts hearing the news:

A woman said, “I’m sorry to say your baby has Down.” It was devastating. My first thought was, how will we cope?

I told Allan [her husband] I wanted to keep the baby and he agreed.

But Ideson was about to experience intense pressure to abort. She had hoped that the doctor she was seeing would support the decision to keep the baby. Instead:

… doctors said she could be born needing emergency heart surgery and have bowel and muscle tone problems – and that was if she survived. At no time did anyone suggest we might keep our baby. A termination was presented as the only way forward.

A nurse said not aborting my baby would cause it to suffer, and she’d only become a burden on society if I went ahead. She even said, “99 per cent of women in your situation wouldn’t want the baby.” Having it would be a burden on our other children, too, she said, especially if it was likely to need many operations throughout its life.

Our children were at the hospital with us. I looked at them and thought the medical staff must be right.

She gave in to pressure to abort. She swallowed the tablet that would kill her child:

I felt numb as I swallowed the tablet. I remember saying to Allan, “I just want to keep my baby.” But he just kept saying, “But they must think the baby’s really bad, Marie – it’s for the best.”

It wasn’t until Ideson delivered her stillborn baby girl that she was faced with the horror of what she had done:

She was so small, but otherwise perfect. I started sobbing uncontrollably. What had I done? I realized I’d been bullied into taking that first pill. I felt overwhelmed by anger. I should’ve been sent home to think about all the options. It should’ve been pointed out that having my baby was an option and that, with medical advances, most Down babies go on to live happy lives.

Ideson named her child Lillie and mourned deeply for her. She said:

I was bullied into going ahead with an abortion…I only wish I could turn back the clock. I think of the daughter I never had every day. I’ll always regret it.

Ideson came to resent her husband for encouraging her to abort, and the abortion eventually tore apart their marriage.

I knew he was devastated, too, but I was angry he’d allowed staff to rush me into getting rid of her. The feeling he didn’t support me when I needed him most festered between us.

The final straw came when I was in labor with Reuben [her next baby]. We were at home and the midwives wanted me to go to the hospital, but I told them I couldn’t go back to where I’d terminated Lillie. Allan tried to persuade me to go and, in the end, I had no choice. I felt, again, Allan hadn’t spoken up for me when I was at my most vulnerable. I couldn’t find it in my heart to forgive him.

The marriage did not survive. Ideson says:

My eldest sons are 25 now. When I was pregnant with them, I knew of women who had babies with Down syndrome. Today, I never see mums with Down babies. I can’t believe that everyone who finds out their baby has Down syndrome willingly chooses to abort it. I can’t help feeling that other women must be having abortions they don’t want.

Alison Squire Smith “I was bullied into aborting my baby'” Herald Sun December 4, 2011

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