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Doctor urges mother to abort baby who may not survive

Mira Ptacin aborted her child when she found out that the baby would be unable to survive after birth (according to the doctor). Her words given idea of what a woman goes through when she finds out that something very, very serious is wrong with her child.

Convinced that her daughter would die, Ptacin was faced with 3 choices – stick out the pregnancy, induce labor early, or have an invasive abortion procedure done. She says:

“The D&E would take 3 days and would be quite painful. First step: dilate the cervix by inserting laminaria rods. Andrew told me that I’d be put under anesthesia. I wouldn’t be awake to see the process. He mentioned forceps, but when he started to explain the actual excavation process, I made him stop. I didn’t want to hear the specifics – what was the point? The details didn’t matter because the result was going to be the same. I just wanted to pick the path that was the least cruel, but I wasn’t sure for whom. Do I choose what is the most respectful for Lily and let her live out her life naturally? Or do I do what would be the least painful for me?”

To the baby, which was old enough to feel pain, the details probably mattered. Below is a picture of a D&E abortion

This was the death that Ptacin chose for her baby. At one point when she was wavering, the doctor said:

“Listen to me, Mira. “Partial-birth abortion” is an inaccurate term,” Dr. Stein told me, over the phone, when I’d finally accepted her phone call. “You must understand that.” She explained how the term I had used to describe the D&E was a political one. Incorrect. Inaccurate. Charged with meeting. That the phrase was coined by the National Right to Life Committee, and that it was not recognized as a medical term by the American Medical Association. Or the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. The term “partial-birth abortion” was false. A generalization… The best decision, the healthiest choice, for me, in her opinion, as a health professional, as my doctor, was to terminate the pregnancy, immediately.”

Mira Ptacin “Un–bearing” Kim Wyatt, Sari Botton Get Out Of My Crotch: 21 Writers Respond to America’s War on Women’s Rights and Reproductive Health (South Lake Tahoe, California: Cherry Bomb Books, 2012) Kindle edition

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Pro-Choicer admits movement’s racist, eugenic origins

Pro-Choice feminist SE Smith is describing the racist motives of the early pro-choice movement:

“While members of the reproductive rights movement are often deeply uncomfortable with discussing, let alone confronting, the origins of the movement, this is an important and necessary part of fighting for reproductive rights for all… The unfortunate truth is that many of the early fighters for access to reproductive rights did so for less-than-perfect reasons; Margaret Sanger, for example, held up as an icon of birth control, strongly believed in eugenics.

In her “Morality and Birth Control” speech (1918), Sanger stated that “all of our problems are the result of overbreeding among the working class.” Lest you think this was a one-time issue, she noted in a speech in 1920 that “[Birth control] sweeps the diseased, the weakling and the feebleminded to the wall with her great gestures that clean the world for the fit and the strong.” She was at it again in Birth Control Review in 1921 with “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda”: “On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to discourage the open fertility of the mentally and physically defective.”

Sanger felt that poor people, disabled persons, and people of color should not reproduce, and she stated so quite openly. Her advocacy for birth control was rooted in part in a desire to advance a eugenic agenda…

It’s deeply saddening that the origins of the movement lie in eugenics and an attempt to control fertility, not to promote bodily autonomy….

Members of minority groups have good reason to fear the reproductive rights movement, to be concerned by some of its rhetoric, and to feel left out of discussions.…

When I bring these issues up, I commonly encounter significant anger, especially from leaders of the reproductive rights movement who are disconcerted by discussions like this one. Their reactions are often defensive, and are focused on painting the movement in a better light by attempting to negate what I’ve just said.”

SE Smith “Justice for All” in Kim Wyatt, Sari Botton Get Out Of My Crotch: 21 Writers Respond to America’s War on Women’s Rights and Reproductive Health (South Lake Tahoe, California: Cherry Bomb Books, 2012) Kindle edition

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Woman justifies abortion- the unborn baby has no soul

Louise, a woman who had an abortion:

“I firmly believe that the soul does not take possession of the body until after birth. Now, nobody can prove their own theory. Nobody can. But I am as entitled to live according to mine as anybody else is according to theirs.”

Sumi Hoshiko Our Choices: Women’s Personal Decisions about Abortion (New York: Harrington Park Press, 1993) 28

Whether an unborn baby has a “soul” or not (whether the soul even exists) can never be known. You can look at any human being and justify killing them by claiming that”they have no soul.” The real question should be when human life begins. Life begins at conception. This is not a religious idea but a scientific fact.

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Pro-choicer: “convenience is a common reason for abortion”

From pro-choice, pro-abortion (in her own words) feminist Carolyn Hax:

Admitting that convenience is a common justification for abortion makes some people squeamish …. It is critical that antiabortion zealots not be allowed to elevate the argument about abortion to one of life and death, with nothing in between. Why? Because what lies between are most abortions, which are seldom a matter of life and death….

We came of age as women in the eye of the abortion storm, a relative calm of acceptance during which millions of women learned to take abortion for granted, as a means to a lifestyle that would allow them to view sex as a pleasure and being single as a way of life – a lifestyle that allowed room for irresponsibility.

Even another friend of mine who balked at the thought of defending “abortions of convenience” admitted to having had unprotected sex, more than once, and taken it lightly. Spontaneous sex, brought to you by the safety net of abortion – shall I upgrade convenience to luxury? Other perks of abortion on demand include extended travel, higher education, unbroken career paths, choosing a different father, limiting family size…

To judge by the life choices we make, then, there are dozens of reasons for women to be pro-abortion…

None of this is to say my generation is of one mind or devoid of conscience on the subject. For all you know, I find abortion reprehensible under any circumstances – but even then, I’d be all for it. Because I don’t care if you are in high school or the fetus is unhealthy or it’s a boy and you want a girl. If you don’t want your baby, I don’t want your baby.

dismembered foot of a baby aborted at nine weeks

Carolyn Hax, “No Birth, no Pangs; for Many Young Women, Abortion is a Given.” The Washington Post Mar 21 1993

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3rd trimester abortion clinic worker: “We don’t care what your reasons are”

Dr. Warren Hern’s clinic in Boulder, Colorado does abortions all the way up until birth. A reporter who visited the clinic overheard a clinic worker talking on the phone with an abortion patient.

“Are you on any medication? Have you had surgery in the last year? No, we don’t have any genetics counselors to interpret that for you. We don’t get a lot of protesters. It’s a liberal and tolerant community. If that changes, we will contact you. No, you’ll get up and get in your car and drive home. And Lisa, if you have a change of heart, please call us–our schedule is completely full and you’ll be taking someone else’s place.

After another silence, a soft voice gets softer: I also want you to know, we don’t care what your reasons are. We’re not going to judge you.”

John H. Richardson “The last abortion doctor”Esquire September 1, 2009

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Images of aborted babies from pathology department

A woman whose job includes examining aborted babies has taken pictures of some of the babies killed in the hospital where she works.

Gahra Jenkins (a pseudonym) is a Pathologist Assistant at a hospital (the name and location of which I am withholding to protect her identity) where she helps the pathologist examine tissue. She has worked at the hospital since May 2014.

In Jenkin’s own words:

I’m a “Pathologist Assistant” (which requires a master’s degree from a NAACLS accredited program in Pathology). I assist the Pathologist in both surgical pathology and autopsy pathology. My main duties are performed within the Gross Pathology laboratory (sometimes grouped in with the Histology department) and there we receive specimens from the OR, sometime ER, and from out-patient services. I take these specimens, examine and describe them grossly/MACROscopically and submit the most pathologically diagnostic portion of that specimen for the Pathologist to look at MICROscopically in order to make a diagnosis.

Some of the ‘specimens’ Jenkins examines are the bodies of aborted babies.

Although the vast majority of abortions take place in outpatient facilities set up for that purpose, 4% of all abortions are performed in hospitals that offer a range of services. Jenkins’ hospital is one of these. On average, she is called upon to examine three aborted babies every other week. While this is a small number compared to how many can be done in a busy abortion facility, each of these children is a unique individual whose life has been destroyed through terrible violence. Jenkins estimates that she has examined babies as far along as 12 weeks.

Below are some pictures Jenkins took of the victims of abortion at her hospital. All these abortions were done by the suction abortion method. (See diagram following pictures.)

Jenkins says:

Parts are most recognizable between the 8th and 12th week mark. Since the preferred termination procedure is D&C with suction, the best way I can describe what I see are dismembered hands, arms, legs with feet, sometimes a rib cage, hip bone etc. I also tell people that it looks like someone put a baby into a blender.

In a suction D&C, or suction abortion, the cervix (opening to the woman’s womb which closes to protects the baby) is stretched open by metal rods and a suction cannula attached to a tube is inserted into the women’s uterus. Attached to the other end of the tube is a suction machine, which generates force that pulls apart the preborn baby and sucks the pieces through the tubing into a small glass jar. These are the parts that are sent to the pathologist to be examined.

The diagram below shows the procedure:

On their website, the nation’s biggest abortion provider, Planned Parenthood, describes a suction abortion this way:

Either a hand-held suction device or a suction machine gently empties your uterus. Sometimes, an instrument called a curette is used to remove any remaining tissue that lines the uterus. It may also be used to check that the uterus is empty.

As you can see above, this ‘gentle emptying’ is not so gentle on the baby.

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Undercover pro-choicer is surprised by what she finds at crisis pregnancy center

Pro-abortion feminist Sarah Mirk went undercover to a pro-life crisis pregnancy center that helps pregnant women. Mirk says:

“The consultation went differently than I thought it would. The counselor wasn’t a Bible beating hell raiser. She didn’t snipe or snarl as she asked me a list of questions about my religious preference and relationship status. Instead, she seemed like a regular woman, a compassionate just past middle-aged woman from a different background than me, dressed a little conservatively.

Maybe, if I’d been born 40 years earlier, to different parents, in a different state, I would’ve wound up in her chair trying to be honest and conservative, rather than critical and liberal.

I told her I didn’t think I was ready to bear my imaginary child, and she nodded kindly.

“This is a major decision,” she said. “The choice is permanent.”

I wasn’t expecting such a balanced response from an organization whose stated mission is “making a life-changing difference in the lives of our unborn.”

At the end of our 10 minute conversation, the counselor wished me well and handed me a fat stack of pamphlets …. Sorting through the glossy flyers and booklets was horrifying. They were antiabortion propaganda… chock full of gory fetus pictures, anguished stories about women who got abortions, and praising, heroic tales of women who decided to keep their children.”

Sarah Mirk “Lucky Breaks and Little Miracles” in Kim Wyatt, Sari Botton Get Out Of My Crotch: 21 Writers Respond to America’s War on Women’s Rights and Reproductive Health (South Lake Tahoe, California: Cherry Bomb Books, 2012) Kindle edition

If the “gory” fetus pictures (like these) and stories (like these) are true, is it really “horrifying” to share them? Shouldn’t women be able to learn the truth before they submit to surgery? Does she really think she will get a thorough and unbiased material from abortion clinics? If you think so, go here.

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Abortionist describes first trimester abortion

Dr. Warren Hern, abortionist, describes how to do a first trimester suction abortion in his book Abortion Practice:

“The principal motion of the suction handle while in the uterus is rotation. The physician will usually first notice a quantity of amniotic fluid followed by placenta and fetal parts which may be more or less identifiable. As this is happening the patient is advised that she will hear a loud sucking sound. Vital signs should be observed regularly, and a Doppler inaudible to the patient should be used at intervals to determine the presence or absence of fetal heart tones.”

Warren M. Hern. Abortion Practice (Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott Company, 1990)

First trimester unborn baby. Suction abortions are done at this time.

Fetal parts at 10 weeks after a suction abortion

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Abortion doctor: “Environment for abortions is ‘ominous’

A pro-choice feminist says cites an article:

“Robert Livingston, a retired doctor who used to perform illegal abortions in the 1960s, recently told a New Jersey newspaper that he “would be afraid” to work today.

“The atmosphere is so ominous now,” he said.

It is an atmosphere fueled by a strategic, steady stream of misinformation.”

“Retired Abortion Doctor says Stigma Is Greater Now Than Pre-Roe Vs. Wade” Think Progress Health, September 9, 2012

Quoted in Tara Murtha “Ripple Effect”

Kim Wyatt, Sari Botton Get Out Of My Crotch: 21 Writers Respond to America’s War on Women’s Rights and Reproductive Health (South Lake Tahoe, California: Cherry Bomb Books, 2012) Kindle edition

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Feminist: Abortion kills ‘something’ – or ‘someone’….

From post-abortive pro-choice feminist Sari Botton:

“For years I told myself I’d withheld [talking about her abortion] because it wasn’t anybody’s business, and maybe it wasn’t.

Later I told myself it was because the topic of abortion was unpleasant and difficult, and nobody wants to talk about it. That’s my husband’s take on it too. He was party to an abortion when he was 40, and although he is very happy it got him out of co-parenting with someone he didn’t want in his life any longer, he remains deeply conflicted about having gone through with it. Even to the staunchest of pro-choicers, the reality of abortion, the termination of something – someone? – that had gotten a start, is unfortunate and sad. It’s still so, so crucial to have an option.”

Sari Botton “Confessions of a Good Girl” Kim Wyatt, Sari Botton Get Out Of My Crotch: 21 Writers Respond to America’s War on Women’s Rights and Reproductive Health (South Lake Tahoe, California: Cherry Bomb Books, 2012) Kindle edition

Below: Is this “something” or “someone”?

16 weeks- legal to kill in any US state

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