Abortion clinic workers talk while they look through dead baby parts

Below is part of a transcript from an undercover video from THE CENTER FOR MEDICAL PROGRESS.

Speakers: -Savita Ginde, MD, Vice President and Medical Director, Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains (“Ginde”)

“J.R.” Johnstone, Clinical Research Coordinator, Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains

(“J.R.”) -Medical Assistant, Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains (“Jess”)

They are having this conversation in an abortion clinic, while poking at the dismembered remains of babies that have just been aborted.

Ginde: I know I’ve seen livers, I’ve seen stomachs, I’ve seen plenty neural tissue, usually we can see the whole brain.

9-10 weeks

9-10 weeks


Ginde: The legs. There’s an eyeball.

Buyer: Do you see an trunk or a body cavity?…

Jess: The posterior spine

Jess: So cute.

Ginde: (inaudible)

Buyer: That is cute. The kidney would be pink

Buyer: Was that crack, was that the skull?

Jess: Mhm.

Jess: I just want to see another leg, with a foot.

Savita: It’s a baby. …

7 w feet

Buyer: In the middle? Yea, liver is often similar in color to the vaginal lining. …This is placental sac. With the umbilical cord. If you want to get [Name] and let her know we have cases. J

.R.: Ok.

Ginde: (Inaudible)

Buyer: I see why they’re all concerned about Stericycle because they’re- it’s a surprising total volume there just for an eleven-six.

Ginde: Yea, let me see if I can get you some picks.

Buyer: This is the placenta. This part of

Ginde: This is part of the head.

Buyer: Oh wow. That- this is high quality.

9 weeka

9 weeka

Ginde: Yea. The nose?

Buyer: Yea, I see the mouth and everything.

Ginde: Oh look, here’s some intestines. Once we take it out of water it will be harder to identify.

Buyer: This is

Ginde: That’s the pelvis.

10 weeks

10 weeks

Buyer: This is pelvis with rib cage. …If we flip this over, maybe that’s stomach.

Ginde: This is the head, I think. This is the cervical spine, and this is the lumbar/thoracic spine.

Buyer: Got it. This is the beginnings of the- so maybe if I flip it over, we might see heart.

Ginde: Possibly, it looks like a spleen (Inaudible)

Buyer: Yea, nothing.

Ginde: There is also some more stuff in here so, it’s possible that it’s in this. So we can float this out here too. Did she say she was going to pick up (inaudible)

11 weeks

11 weeks

Buyer: This is the hand…we’ve almost got a complete cal over here, with the jaw…. the cervical spine area over here.

Ginde: Cool.

Buyer: Let me flip that over. You know what? Actually, because it’s the same white matter is coming out where the head was attached.

Ginde: Yea.

Buyer: Yea, so this is all neural matter.

Jess: Usually the organs are cleaner

Ginde: Oh, look here’s the heart. Is that right?

Buyer: Yea.

Ginde: Here’s the heart.

Jess: I’m trying to get in on it.

Ginde: My fingers will smoohs it if I try to pick it up. The heart is right there.

Buyer: You found the heart right there. I wonder if this is spleen. I’m sorry not spleen, pancreas. ..

Ginde: So you said they would want the cal?

Buyer: Yea, they want the cal because they want the brain. This is neural matter over here, because this is the lower part of the jaw and cervical spine. So this is spinal cord and

7 weeks

7 weeks

Ginde: So, that’s what you want?

Buyer: So, yea this is neural matter I believe this might be thymus and stuff…

Buyer: So, it looks to me like it’s got two lobes here, connected

Ginde: A lot of times ‘ll get a full torso, I’ll spine, kidneys, you could send the whole thing or pick that apart. …

Buyer: That’s a great heart specimen right there.

Ginde: The hearts I can say we usually get…

Buyer: These are intact kidneys. So, if somebody needed-

Ginde: Because if I looked at that, I’d say that’s good to go.

16 weeks

16 weeks

Buyer: Oh yea.

Jess: I’d say five stars….

Ginde: So, that would be it, because no one ever wants hands or legs, or anything like that.

Buyer: Sometimes.

Ginde: Really?

12 weeks

12 weeks

Buyer: Probably from larger gestations though because they want muscle or bone marrow like, from the long bones. And that would- this is very tiny. it would be difficult to extract bone marrow from this. You would want something a little bigger, it’s easier to get in there. Oh, we’ve got a whole- is this long bone Jess?

Jess: No, I think it’s shoulder.


Ginde: But sometimes with the residents, I tell them to poke around, and sometimes embryology will come full circle. Find all the parts you know, see what you can see. Especially with the thirteen, fourteen, fifteen weekers, I think it’s pretty amazing. We find heart, we’ve see kidneys and adrenals, sometimes there’s thing I don’t know what that is but it’s a part. I don’t’ know if it’s lungs, if it’s brains, if it’s heart


Jess: This is nine. B

Buyer: Oh, this is nine….

9 to 10 weeks

9 to 10 weeks

Buyer: That’s the whole bottom half of the cadaver, right there. You’ve got two legs and

Ginde: There’s two arms missing. Here’s the head, is this spinal column?

Ginde: Because, here’s her thorax.

Buyer: Must be. Yea.

Ginde: Interesting. It’s so big. Here’s her heart.

Buyer: Oh. Wow….that’s a very intact looking heart.

Ginde: Yea, it is. Jess: Do they want the spinal column?

Buyer: There are some researchers who have used neural tissue at seven weeks actually.

Ginde: I can get one at seven weeks. (Inaudible)

7 wk dia


Buyer: Yea, that looks better than what we saw earlier- that looks even more that’s not even all split up the way it was before. Its holding together a lot better.

Jess: So fast, it’s the twelve weeks and everyone wants to know, is it twins?

Buyer: You’ve been looking for twins all day.

12 weeks

12 weeks

Nurse: This might be, (inaudible)

Jess: As a trainee my blood pressure goes up anytime I can’t find it all right away. I’m like ahh, where is it?

Nurse: I found it in there.

Jess: Oh, the other one? Ok great.

Buyer: The other leg?

Jess: Yea the other leg. That’s why I said thank you, it was stressing me out. She said she saw it- oh there it is, there’s a little foot.

Jess: There’s another heart, completely perfect.

Buyer: Is that the cal?

Jess: Yes. The cervical

7 weeks

7 weeks

Buyer: Yea, and there’s brainstem in there

Jess: Yea, I don’t see the eyeballs

Ginde: Very interesting. Do they want brain? What do they do with it?

Buyer: Yea. Well brain, with brain they-

Ginde: Can they do anything with eyeballs?

Buyer: Oh yea. Although, eyeballs they generally want more developed than this. Eyeballs, you get the retinal pigment epithelium from the back of them and you culture those out, you know, into big cell cultures and you get, you get all kinds of real interesting stuff out of that. Is that the heart?

Ginde: It’s too soft right?

Buyer: Nah, we saw the heart earlier….

Buyer: I think this big thing right here is liver.

Ginde: Yea. It’s so soft though, but I guess maybe it doesn’t

8 weeks

8 weeks

Buyer: No, it’s definitely not like an older liver. It’s not doing all the same functions. I saw a kidney in here. And the cal, at first there was brain in here but

Ginde: It got blasted out.

Buyer: It got blasted out with water

Ginde: Well you know a lot of times especially with the 2nd tris, we won’t even put water because it’s so big you can just put your hand in there and pick it up, the parts.

Buyer: Right, just pick it up.

Ginde: And so, I don’t think it would be as…war-torn.


Ginde: Here’s some stomach, a heart, kidney, and adrenal. I don’t know what else is in there. Jess: Head, arms, I don’t see any legs. Did you see the legs?

Ginde: I didn’t’ really look but

Buyer: Yea, there it goes. yup, you got all of them right there.


Jess: Another boy. Should I just put it

Ginde: Yea, just put it over here, I’ll wash it out. yea, so you guys staying the night or are you leaving?


April 2015

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Promoting abortion is “God’s calling” in my life, says activist

In this way, my belief in God has boosted my enthusiasm for the pro-choice movement. When I found the reproductive justice movement, I found God’s calling for my life. God’s purpose for our lives isn’t to spend our time hurting people, lying, and gossiping like many anti-choicers do. Instead of hurting, lying, and gossiping, wouldn’t it make more sense that God wants us to fight, with love and passion, for the rights of all people, women included? Isn’t that who God really is?

Who God Really Is” Abortion Gang Oct 15 2010

Accessed 10/6/2015

This pro-choice activist wants to fight “with love and passion” to take away the right to life of babies like the one below.

1st trimester

1st trimester

See what a baby around this age looks like after being aborted

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Postabortion woman saddened by birth of boy: “I had given up my girl”

A new mother felt sad when her baby turned out to be a boy and not a girl, and found herself breaking down and sobbing in the hospital. She was really mourning the baby she aborted before, which she thought would have been the girl she wanted.

“Somewhere in my young head, I felt like I was being punished for ending the life of my first child. That the child I gave back to God was my girl; that I had given up my girl. I struggled for some time with that idea; that I needed to be punished for what I had done. My husband was the only one who knew what was going on with me; I had to work through these feelings on my own. No one talked to me before the abortion about the fact there would be a chance I would grieve the life of that child or that I would struggle with my roll [sic] in that abortion.…. Even though I found my way though this wave of grief, this was not the end of my grieving for my first child.”

‘Babies and the post abortion experience” Secrets in the Shadows Nov 3 2010

Accessed 10/6/2015

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Nancy Pelosi dodges abortion question

“I do not intend to respond to your question which has no basis in what public policy we do here.”

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, responding to a reporter who asked her this question:

“Leader Pelosi, in reference to funding of Planned Parenthood, is an unborn baby with a human heart and a human liver a human being?”

Pelosi also said:

“I am a devout, practicing Catholic. A mother of five children. When my baby was born, my firth child, my oldest child, was six years old. I think I know more about this subject than you, with all due respect.”

Which, of course, is no answer at all.

Kelli “VIDEO: Nancy Pelosi skirts question on whether a preborn child is a human” Live Action News, OCT 1, 2015

Below: A human being?

16 weeks

16 weeks

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Pro-abortion site sells disturbing T-shirts

In an October 25, 2010 post, the blog JivinJehoshaphat Wrote about a pro-abortion website called “Thanks, Abortion!” The site, now down, allegedly had stories from women who were grateful they had abortions. Interesting to notice the T-shirts that they were selling. Here are two designs:



The first T-shirt implies that women should have an abortion because they might argue with their future children. Children are a pain, so you should abort. The second one is even worse – it shows that these pro-abortion activists know exactly what abortion is. According to their now-defunct Facebook page, Ron Fitzsimmons, former head of the National Abortion Federation, was a fan

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Catholic nurse has no qualms about abortion

16 weeks- a "potential" life?

16 weeks- a “potential” life?

Marie Stafford, 50, a nurse who has worked in the abortion field since 1989 (interview was from 1996)

I was brought up a Roman Catholic to believe that life was sacred, but I have no qualms about abortion.

I feel strongly about the woman’s right to choose. …

However, there are times when the reality of it all hits you. When you are at the operation, particularly with the later terminations, it can be difficult. You might think: “Oh God, that’s a potential life.” But you learn to distinguish between the procedure itself and the need to support the woman’s right to choose….

I would have no qualms about having an abortion. …

You see a lot of trauma and tragedy. It’s awful when girls come to you when they have gone over the 24-week limit And sadly some GPs who are anti-abortion delay referring patients until it’s too late. .”

AnnBarrowclough “ABORTION; THIS IS WHAT OUR NURSES REALLY THINK…” Sunday Mirror (London, England)  Aug 18, 1996

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Abortionists have admitted to killing children, says pro-life author

From pro-lifer Father Frank Pavone:

“Among the most memorable conversations I have had are with practicing abortionists. A number of them have admitted to me that they know they are killing a child, but they justify it by saying, “I don’t know when the child receives a soul.” I was stunned upon first hearing this and replied, “If you don’t know when the child receives a soul, then you don’t know whether the newborn has a soul. Does that and give you the right to kill the newborn?”

Rev. Frank Pavone Abolishing Abortion: How You Can Play a Part in Ending the Greatest Evil of Our Day (Nashville, Tennessee: Nelson Books, 2015) 19 – 20

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Chinese worker describes enforcing one child policy

Chinese nurse “Chi An” had a job enforcing the one child policy in China. She emigrated to the United States and wrote a book about her experiences. In this quote, she describes coercing women to abort their “illegal” children.

“The unpleasant part began in the second half of January and was an unending and often exhausting struggle from then until the end of the year. Identifying the women who conceived children outside the plan was hard enough, requiring me to perform public examinations on all those suspected of being pregnant. Pressuring women who were pregnant with “illegal” children to get abortions was even more time-consuming. Even though I had the help of the Women’s Federation, there were still dozens of women who remained unswayed by “heart-to-heart” chats. The hard cases were now my responsibility, and there were not enough hours in the day to deal with all of them…

I asked Secretary Chen if we could order them all to attend a single family planning study session. He readily agreed. Our first session was held in April, in an isolated storeroom far removed from all the shops and dormitories.

We used what in Party parlance were “hard and soft” tactics – known in the West as the “good cop, bad cop” approach. Secretary Chen and other senior officials would first frighten the women with harsh threats of dire consequences for failing to abide by the one child policy. Then, speaking softly and as a friend, I would tell them that I was there to help. I was an expert at convincing women to abort – I had learned all the arguments during my earlier training at the hospital – and my gentleness help to break down their resistance. Those who angrily resisted Secretary Chen’s bluster often broke down in tears when approached by someone they thought was sympathetic. I would put my arm around them, and they would go quietly to the hospital.

Throughout 1983, each time the number of women awaiting abortions reached 20 or so, I would schedule a study session. The holdouts would be ordered, on pain of heavy fines, to report to the storeroom. To increase the pressure on the women, I obtained Secretary Chen’s permission to keep them in custody for as long as they resist. During the day they would be subjected to morning to night study sessions.  At night they would be locked in the storeroom. They would  only be released if they agreed to an abortion.”

Stephen W Mosher A Mother’s Ordeal: One Woman’s Fight against China’s One Child Policy (Orlando, Florida: Harcourt Brace & Company, 1993) 267 – 268

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I’m pro-abortion because I believe in mercy and compassion

Do unto others as they want you to do unto them. It’s called the Platinum Rule. In this moral universe, real people count more than potential people, hypothetical people or corporate people….

I’m pro-abortion because I believe in mercy, grace, compassion, and the power of fresh starts.”

VALERIE TARICO “I am pro-abortion, not just pro-choice: 10 reasons why we must support the procedure and the choice” Salon APR 24, 2015

Where is the “mercy” and “compassion” for the unborn victim who is torn limb from limb in an abortion?

See what abortion really does to children (GRAPHIC) 

living child in the womb

living child in the womb



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Legal abortion deaths replaced illegal ones, doctor says

A few years after Roe V. Wade, Dr. Dennis Cavanaugh wrote in The American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology:

“It really makes no difference whether a woman dies from legal or illegal abortion, she is dead nonetheless. I find no comfort in the fact that legal abortion is now the leading cause of abortion related maternal deaths in the US.”

Dennis Cavanaugh “Effect of Liberalized Abortion on Maternal Mortality Rates” American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology February 1978: 375

He noted that the legalization of abortion did not lead to a huge drop in abortion related deaths that pro-choicers predicted. Many illegal abortionists simply began operating legally, killing women after Roe just like they killed women before Roe. See stories and details here 

Read more about illegal abortions here. 

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